crankbait42
11/30/2008 9:34:00 PMThe Quadfather
11/30/2008 9:37:00 PMThat is interesting in the pic. where you see what looks like a suture needle. You asked if something is removed from Triploid trout so that they can't reproduce.....
Nothing is "Removed" from them at all. When female trout spawn their eggs contain two sets of chromosomes. ( the cell is considered to be diploid)
The male trout's sperm contains one set of chromosomes. When the eggs are fertalized the chromosomes recombine and each egg receives one set of chrom. from the female, and one from the male.
The 3rd (extra set) of chrom. is kicked out. This makes for a typical fish (able to re-produce)
Occaisonally that extra set doesn't get kicked out.... and you have a fish that is biologicaly "bunged up" and unable to reproduce.
Scientists have discovered that by exposing rainbow trout eggs to pressure and warm water just after fertilization they can interrupt this process of releasing the 3rd set of chrom. this manipulation geneticly (sp?) alters the new trout. It is now a "Triploid" 3 sets of chrom. same fish as before, but with scrambled sperm and eggs, and unable to reproduce.
So the real question is, what is that weird looking suture needle in the belly of the fish? Looks like he went to surgery.
BentRod
12/1/2008 10:06:00 AMThat sure looks like a suture of some sort to me. I thought I read that the recent stock was a bunch of fish that were part of a school project or something. If so, maybe some of the these fish were studied. Or, maybe the fish was injured and fixed up while still in captivity. Who knows, but it sure it weird. Might want to contact WDFW or the Issaquah fish hatchery about your catch.
What the Quadfather said about the triploid genetics is correct and it also contributes to their larger than average size.
gian
12/1/2008 4:32:00 PMBentRod
12/2/2008 9:49:00 AMThat's a scary thought.
Anyway, aside from the golden ticket, did you notice anything out of sorts when you cleaned the fish?
I'm still leaning towards "injured and fixed in captivity". Doubt they'd release it if it had a problem that would be a health concern.