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Samish River

Post by denhambruce » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:19 pm

Is it worth the drive from Seattle? Want to catch some late fall kings and need an idea of whats going on up there. Are there still chrome left? What section of the river? Condition of the fish? Hows the water clarity? Do I need to floss or can I fish Eggs? If so, should I float or drift them? Anything helps! Just trying to find something to do on my day off at the U

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Re: Samish River

Post by Matt » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:40 am

Skip it.

Not worth the drive to fish elbow to elbow. Fish are getting darker by the minute. Flosser central.

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Re: Samish River

Post by skagit510 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:58 am

denhambruce wrote:Is it worth the drive from Seattle? Want to catch some late fall kings and need an idea of whats going on up there. Are there still chrome left? What section of the river? Condition of the fish? Hows the water clarity? Do I need to floss or can I fish Eggs? If so, should I float or drift them? Anything helps! Just trying to find something to do on my day off at the U
You never need to floss. Being it's not even legal would be a good reason not to.

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Re: Samish River

Post by denhambruce » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:29 pm

Springer Jerry wrote:
denhambruce wrote:Is it worth the drive from Seattle? Want to catch some late fall kings and need an idea of whats going on up there. Are there still chrome left? What section of the river? Condition of the fish? Hows the water clarity? Do I need to floss or can I fish Eggs? If so, should I float or drift them? Anything helps! Just trying to find something to do on my day off at the U
Flossing is for Cougs. Enticing a bite is for Dawgs.
Was only curious because on some rivers being a Coug is the only way to catch a fish.. lol

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Re: Samish River

Post by fear_no_fish » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:06 pm

denhambruce wrote: Do I need to floss
You need to stick to planter trout in a lake.. ](*,)

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Re: Samish River

Post by steel whisperer » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:07 pm

Flossing is for people with no real angling skill. Anyone who says they have to floss totally misses the point of angling. And as said, should just stick to planter trout.

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Re: Samish River

Post by denhambruce » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:30 pm

fear_no_fish wrote:
denhambruce wrote: Do I need to floss
You need to stick to planter trout in a lake.. ](*,)
steel whisperer wrote:Flossing is for people with no real angling skill. Anyone who says they have to floss totally misses the point of angling. And as said, should just stick to planter trout.
Wow, planter trout. Now that one hurt.... It's funny how whenever I post something asking for advice I get guys replying with smarta$$ remarks who think they're the next Bill Herzog or something smh... Stop thinking you're superior over other fisherman because you can upload a profile picture of yourself holding a fish lol

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Re: Samish River

Post by steel whisperer » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:49 am

My advice is dont floss

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Re: Samish River

Post by skagit510 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:20 am

Aren't you the guy with all the expert videos? You asked if you should floss. Seems some think that is dirty pool. You on the other hand regard it as a tool or technique. Fact is it isn't legal and certainly not ethical.

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Re: Samish River

Post by DannyL » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:42 am

If you know how to use eggs you don't need to floss or snag. We have been using eggs all season on Samish Kings THEY WORK.
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Re: Samish River

Post by denhambruce » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:44 am

DannyL wrote:If you know how to use eggs you don't need to floss or snag. We have been using eggs all season on Samish Kings THEY WORK.
There. Thats really all I was asking for

Thanks

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Re: Samish River

Post by goodtimesfishing » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:44 am

denhambruce wrote:
fear_no_fish wrote:
denhambruce wrote: Do I need to floss
You need to stick to planter trout in a lake.. ](*,)
steel whisperer wrote:Flossing is for people with no real angling skill. Anyone who says they have to floss totally misses the point of angling. And as said, should just stick to planter trout.
Wow, planter trout. Now that one hurt.... It's funny how whenever I post something asking for advice I get guys replying with smarta$$ remarks who think they're the next Bill Herzog or something smh... Stop thinking you're superior over other fisherman because you can upload a profile picture of yourself holding a fish lol
Here I thought it was just another troll trying to get people fired up! If you are serious about your question in regards to flossing, you don't even deserve planter trout. FYI- One does not need to be the next Bill Herzog to feel this way about SNAGGING fish. You should expect smarta$$ remarks when asking that kind of question! How do you think it would go over if you went on a deer hunting website and asked what watt light bulb you should use for spotlight hunting!! ](*,)

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Re: Samish River

Post by denhambruce » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:58 am

Here I thought it was just another troll trying to get people fired up! If you are serious about your question in regards to flossing, you don't even deserve planter trout. FYI- One does not need to be the next Bill Herzog to feel this way about SNAGGING fish. You should expect smarta$$ remarks when asking that kind of question! How do you think it would go over if you went on a deer hunting website and asked what watt light bulb you should use for spotlight hunting!! ](*,)
You do realize that for salmon, drift fishing is just flossing unless you use eggs. If you've ever caught a good amount of fish using corkie and yarn then you have at one point flossed a fish. So therefore, you yourself do not even deserve planter trout!

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Re: Samish River

Post by goodtimesfishing » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:53 am

](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Not sure what to say other then you are WRONG!!! But I think you know that, but just want to push peoples buttons. As I originally thought, a troll.

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Post by RiverChromeGS » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:11 pm

denhambruce wrote:
Here I thought it was just another troll trying to get people fired up! If you are serious about your question in regards to flossing, you don't even deserve planter trout. FYI- One does not need to be the next Bill Herzog to feel this way about SNAGGING fish. You should expect smarta$$ remarks when asking that kind of question! How do you think it would go over if you went on a deer hunting website and asked what watt light bulb you should use for spotlight hunting!! ](*,)
You do realize that for salmon, drift fishing is just flossing unless you use eggs. If you've ever caught a good amount of fish using corkie and yarn then you have at one point flossed a fish. So therefore, you yourself do not even deserve planter trout!
Yes we do realize this, thus explaining why real fishermen do not drift fish corkies for salmon, ever. Next point?
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Re: Samish River

Post by skagit510 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:12 pm

It's a shame that drift fishing is seen as snagging/flossing. It never used to be. Read Timothy kusherets book on drift fishing. Drift fishing is legit, flossers have ruined that. Nice that the opinions of those who have been fishing all of a hot minute are seen as fact. Drift fishing has a rich history and can be practiced ethically. Scent can help. It's not rocket science, you only need a two foot leader at most and you set the hook when you get a bite. Therefore some days pass without a set. Drift fishing when practiced properly looks and is nothing like what is flossing today. I really don't drift fish, but have on days past as I prefer a lure bite. That's just me though. In more or less fishing a fly or lure that gets a fish to chase and eat. That for me is the sport, bringing the fish to the offering, not the other way around.

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Post by RiverChromeGS » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:49 pm

skagit510 wrote:It's a shame that drift fishing is seen as snagging/flossing. It never used to be. Read Timothy kusherets book on drift fishing. Drift fishing is legit, flossers have ruined that. Nice that the opinions of those who have been fishing all of a hot minute are seen as fact. Drift fishing has a rich history and can be practiced ethically. Scent can help. It's not rocket science, you only need a two foot leader at most and you set the hook when you get a bite. Therefore some days pass without a set. Drift fishing when practiced properly looks and is nothing like what is flossing today. I really don't drift fish, but have on days past as I prefer a lure bite. That's just me though. In more or less fishing a fly or lure that gets a fish to chase and eat. That for me is the sport, bringing the fish to the offering, not the other way around.
I agree, when i drift fish for steelhead in canada i get accused as a flosser all the time. Especially with canada being a float fishing paradise they just dont understand... Corkie and yarn for steelhead drift fished is legit all day. Same with drifting bait or whatever else for salmon. We were just making the point that salmon fishing with a corkie and yarn is just not a very effective method and those who are seen doing it are intentionally flossing 99% of the time, because those who do not floss would simply not be out there throwing that... At least i know you wont find me salmon fishing without pink hands ;)
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Re: Samish River

Post by BlakeP » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:33 pm

fishenfreak wrote: We were just making the point that salmon fishing with a corkie and yarn is just not a very effective method and those who are seen doing it are intentionally flossing 99% of the time, because those who do not floss would simply not be out there throwing that... At least i know you wont find me salmon fishing without pink hands ;)
I personally don't think that is always true. While I prefer using eggs for salmon over any thing else, there are some rivers I fish that have a ton of leeches up river, and some of the coho have a bunch on them. When the water is fairly low, using anything that looks like a leech kills them. Out fishes eggs completely. I use red trout beads or red corkies(mostly beads) and black yarn to imitate a leech chasing an egg. I only use a 18-22" inch leader, nothing longer. A majority of the fish I catch using that are hooked so deep I have to use pliers to get the hook out, and I've never caught one in the gill plate or outside the mouth using that rig. Not saying that a majority of the time people using corkies aren't flossing cause a lot of times they are. But that's not always the case. I use that set-up on a daily basis in October, and I'd like to consider myself a "real fisherman" not a flosser. :) Everywhere else I toss eggs 99% of the time though.

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Post by RiverChromeGS » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:58 pm

BlakeP wrote:
fishenfreak wrote: We were just making the point that salmon fishing with a corkie and yarn is just not a very effective method and those who are seen doing it are intentionally flossing 99% of the time, because those who do not floss would simply not be out there throwing that... At least i know you wont find me salmon fishing without pink hands ;)
I personally don't think that is always true. While I prefer using eggs for salmon over any thing else, there are some rivers I fish that have a ton of leeches up river, and some of the coho have a bunch on them. When the water is fairly low, using anything that looks like a leech kills them. Out fishes eggs completely. I use red trout beads or red corkies(mostly beads) and black yarn to imitate a leech chasing an egg. I only use a 18-22" inch leader, nothing longer. A majority of the fish I catch using that are hooked so deep I have to use pliers to get the hook out, and I've never caught one in the gill plate or outside the mouth using that rig. Not saying that a majority of the time people using corkies aren't flossing cause a lot of times they are. But that's not always the case. I use that set-up on a daily basis in October, and I'd like to consider myself a "real fisherman" not a flosser. :) Everywhere else I toss eggs 99% of the time though.
Totally agree. Thats why i said 99% not 100%. Some situations im sure a single bead or corkie yarn w/scent or something like that can be good. Im just sayin for the most part. I personally know chum and coho crush bright yarnballs when im fishing hatchery steelhead early season
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